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Posted: Feb. 12 2007,22:23

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Greengrass, if you have an ipw2200 and wish to compare and look for possible missing udev related files as WDef has suggested, then that would be welcomed. I would think it would not be too difficult, with unionfs, to add in any found missing files for quick and easy testing. I would then add those in and do an RC5 and then a release.

I've got access to a centrino 2200 Mini PCI card if that will fit the bill.

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We would still have the issue of Debian and those who clamor for the latest kernel and modules.

This will always be a problem, chasing the latest release. Having went through a number of versions of Fedora and SuSE, Ubuntu 6.06 was the first to recognize all my H/W and drive my screen at 1600x1200. I decided to stick with it for my workstation and do any testing on my mini-ITX boxens or under VMWare Workstation where possible.

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Then there is my philosphy of non traditional hard drive installations. Those who know me, know that I like to do new things with code.

Not a problem to me. All my DSL installs have been to HDD. I will want to run from CF, but that can wait for now.

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Perhaps DSL-N should have contained both sets of libraries, gtk1 and gtk2

I'll give that a big vote of confidence.

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There are some who would like to see 2.1b be brought forward with all the new features of DSL.

I hadn't notices the 2.4.26 -> 2.4.31 -> 2.4.26 "blip" until you mentioned it. It looks like that stirred the 2200/Centrino pot, or am I mistaken?

I've got two mini-ITX 600Mhz boxen. One with a 250G 3.5" HDD and the other with a 40G 2.5" HDD. Both with slimline DVD/CD R/W and a couple of wireless cards + a wireless router. If I can to some testing for you on any of than kit, let me know.

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Comments and suggestions on moving forward are welcomed.

Personally I want to see apt-get working as there are a fair number of applications I need to test/get working.

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Posted: Feb. 12 2007,23:44

I just unpacked a udev deb package from debian stable onto dsl-n and tried starting the udevd daemon for a laugh. It starts with an error some unknown command mountpoint, but runs in the background nevertheless. It's an older version than knoppix-4.0.2 claims it has installed with dpkg -L (can't remember offhand but can supply that info later).

I also copied the hal.udev rules or whatever from knoppix-4.0.2 to /etc/udev and did the echo "100" >/sys/firmware/class/timeout thing referred to in a number of places and reloaded.

No difference, firmware doesn't load. Just a wild shot in the dark.

I'm not certain that knoppix-4.0.2 is actually even using udev or if it's some relic from debian, and if it does I'm not sure I can find the rule that loads the firmware.

Here's a few more links I stumbled across:

http://www.bughost.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=601

http://jmatrix.net/dao....2D1-959

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There are some who would like to see 2.1b be brought forward with all the new features of DSL.

Not a bad idea, especially if it's (as I imagine) not so difficult to graft a contemporary dsl userland over dsl-2.1b. But then I'm not the one doing the work. 2 strands of dsl classic - 2.4.26 and 2.4.31? It might also be worth having a look at what Slackware does with the 2.4.31 kernel, I could be wrong but I have an idea they use a backports kernel with a number of the features of 2.6.xx? (where's Mikshaw, he's a Slacker?).

I'd still hate to see dsl-n just die though. If I haven't used it much, it's because of the lack of things like apt-get, gtk1 and other conveniences, and I think that's story for many users.

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I will need to package up and release a development system so that the community can easily compile and therefore contribue modules for any hardware that they may own.

Brilliant idea. It's wonderful to open up that knoppix-4.0.2 dvd and see prepared kernel sources, many of the header packages, all the module sources etc just sitting there, and know that it's a full development environment for dsl-n ..

ripcrd6

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Posted: Mar. 09 2007,16:19

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So, what are we to do, going forward, if Knoppix 4.0.2 dvd is used as a base for DSL-N if we never downloaded it when it came out? I just did a quick scan of Knoppix versions I have and that one is not there, especially the DVD version. I may have the CD version at home or something.

If that or another Knoppix version is used for development, please post a link to where it is avail or host it for a while via bittorrent or something. I know I went thru hell slogging around to find the Knoppix 3.4 that I needed to be able to compile a wireless module for a SMC 2635 card I had. Luckily I no longer use that card, but you know what I mean for other projects.

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Posted: Mar. 09 2007,18:35

I have a pucker, branded 4.02 DVD that I bought off Ebay a few years ago, and I've the cd-rom that I burned in my local library a few years ago. I can copy & post/mail/ship anywhere, gratis, with pleasure.
It is not hard to contact me.
Andrew J.Chapman, English, Photographer.
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Thinking about it, DVD from me no problem.
Perhaps one can donate PayPal or whatever a few bucks to DSL.

lucky13

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Posted: Mar. 09 2007,22:48

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So, what are we to do, going forward, if Knoppix 4.0.2 dvd is used as a base for DSL-N if we never downloaded it when it came out?

Huh? Knoppix 4.0.2 is widely available, including at the knoppix site and knoppix mirrors. See also:
http://kernel.org/pub/dist/knoppix-dvd/

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