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Posted: June 18 2008,22:07 QUOTE
lucky13 ... I had a look at your blog (for my own amusement - my feelings, you see).

OK, so you are a GPL/FSF hater, fine ... I was a member :-)

However, if you read the letter of the GPL V2 you'll see far from the whimsical FSF "freedoms" it is quite specific about what you can and can't do. Again, we are referring specifically to the code I wrote, that I was free to license, and the letter of the legal document it is licensed under.

And DSL did some things that molested me, and other things that are plain illegal ... And still haven't replied to my mails (OK, they haven't had much time I guess).

I don't overestimate the important of my feelings ...

I suspect I am not quite as dogmatic as yourself.

But thanks for making sure I didn't take this lightly ;-)

Either way I hope to hear from Robert or John by tomorrow :-(

Cheers
JohnM

PS : Why did you post the GPL_Sources link ? I told you that doesn't address the problem ... So I have to assume you either don't care (you decided you'd post it anyway, didn't you ;-) ), or we are back to your reading comprehension problem ... Which I'd be glad to help you with.

PPS : You are right about my feelings being hurt, but you are wrong about me expecting anyone to care :-)
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Posted: June 18 2008,22:42 QUOTE
I know your feelings are hurt. You feel your bindings have been "butchered." You're unhappy someone has exercised discretion and latitudes allowed them under a license you chose. You're very unhappy, and you admit you're not reasonable because you're worked up about it. I know because I read all about that.
http://lucky13linux.wordpress.com/files/2008/06/whine1b-sc.png

Before you accuse people of doing illegal things, maybe you should investigate a little more about it first. Order the sources like anyone else and, if you want DSL to signify your copyright on every freaking page of the website and on every freaking ISO downloaded so everyone knows they used your bindings (even if it's in a way you don't want them used), work with them and see if they do that. But for God's sake quit being such a drama queen and stop demanding others use code you released under GPL only in a way you approve of.

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Posted: June 18 2008,22:59 QUOTE
Quote (lucky13 @ June 18 2008,22:42)
I know your feelings are hurt. You feel your bindings have been "butchered." You're unhappy someone has exercised discretion and latitudes allowed them under a license you chose. You're very unhappy, and you admit you're not reasonable because you're worked up about it. I know because I read all about that.
http://lucky13linux.wordpress.com/files/2008/06/whine1b-sc.png

Again putting YOUR words in my mouth ...

Is that the ONLY way you can make a point ?

Good highlighting of only the bits you are interested in though :-)

As it is, did you read my last post ? (the PS bit?!)

The letter of the GPL 2 is quite clear, which would be apparent if you read it ... The principles and availability of the source code make little difference in this case (just to repeat myself), read points 1-3 in the license ... Be a better person ;-)

I did do my research, I'll write it up if I am forced to ...

Either way I am reserving THAT message until tomorrow.

Cheers
JohnM
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Posted: June 18 2008,23:03 QUOTE
You've made clear that you've sent e-mails. You have NOT said if you ordered sources. That is all you need to do to verify if DSL is in compliance. And the link for the sources is where you can order them. Are you really this daft? Maybe you should take up something a little less stressful if you're so easily offended. Take your flames and irrational BS somewhere else or try to address these matters again when you're not so freaking emotive.

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Posted: June 18 2008,23:33 QUOTE
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You've made clear that you've sent e-mails. You have NOT said if you ordered sources. That is all you need to do to verify if DSL is in compliance. And the link for the sources is where you can order them. Are you really this daft? Maybe you should take up something a little less stressful if you're so easily offended. Take your flames and irrational BS somewhere else or try to address these matters again when you're not so freaking emotive.

Wow, as much as I tell you to look at the license you refuse ...

I can only refer you to my previous posts ... And I think that people who read this whole topic won't think I'm the daft one.

As for emotive responses ...

Pot ... Kettle ;-)

Cheers
JohnM

PS : Maybe I was wrong about "reading comprehension" ... Maybe just "reading"
PPS : Waiting for your next "last word" on the subject.
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