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Del

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Posted: Jan. 06 2004,05:23

Daniele,
You're right, that was the basis of my post. What I mean by it though, is that DSL could end up
being several distros, thus being able to be 'just right' for anyone. That way, it's not stuck as
just a "fashionable distro", it could actually be a useable, long-term distro.

If it stays as a "50 Mb cause it's too cool not to do", then yes, it's fashionable. But as long as
there are people that use it, tweak it, and possibly remaster and redistribute it, it's here to stay.

Which I believe was your original query, whether DSL was cool for now, or if it would have any
longevity. The answer is totally up to John and his user base. If it's to be a big-name, bring
Linux to the masses product, it'll be because people like you and I told our friends and brought
John a larger following. Eventually maybe someone with some money burning a hole in their
pocket will help make it a big name.

Okay, I'm rambling. Shutting up now

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Daniele

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Posted: Jan. 06 2004,06:01

Quote (Del @ Jan. 06 2004,00:23)

Basically what you are saying is that DSL could end up like Knoppix, being 'many distros'
I like that, it is exactly what I wanted to hear

enthusi

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Posted: Jan. 06 2004,10:16

Hi there,
It is still damn early here but I just want to add my opinion on that topic

I'm using Linux in general for about 4 years. It totally replaced my win about two years ago. And I admit I did not leave win because everything was easier with Linux. Maybe not even everything was better in the beginning but I think it's far better to live it Linux then with win.
About that 50MB-size border of DSL - I think its great.
It tweaks the apps in it! That may sound paradox but I think whenver tehre are limits it grows from within!
(I am a great great fan of the un4gettable (unbeaten) C64 which is still a pretty nice example of it)
DSL has or at least can have everything one does indeed need.
I have lots of older hardware - some of them too old even for any X but those who can have DSL. It rocks. When I visit my parents on xmas a dsl is waiting on a 100Mhz and on a 66Mhz -system (the latter sucks a bit I admit ;-). On partys a PI-200Mhz plays mp3s and none of those win-murons would ever guess that it is such a "slow" machine---
Knoppix is wonderful. It looks great. I'd install it if I had a super-new pc but I dont and why should I?

As for the futre: I wont give away old hardware (as I never gave away those c64s).

Some of them tak eover stupid functions as just playing mp3s ot beeiong a router, server whatever but they still are powerful "beeings".

Maybe you wanna start coding in assembler and you may see better what I mean.

What could be an option for you (and others, though I think it's out of this project a I see it) is a secondary these-packages-work-fine-with-dsl-and-people-like-them-CD with selected Debian-packages.
Of course a apt-get-script would do it, too but I for example dont have DSL with internetconnection and have to put things on cd or floppy first anyway...

And now for a last point. I think one of my first one was that DSL lives as long as its fun to tweak it and learn how things work. I much rather mess arround with 200 MB than with 2 Gigs... Well, the last point ;-)
I think beside its socalled "limits" (I'm open for discussion if old apss that do the job perfectly well are worse than new ones...) I think DSL is very good for beginners, too!
This forum e.g. seems very openminded to first-user-questions!
And I have "brought" people DSL twice by now.
There are more people that could use linux and especially linux as many think...
One of them is a (quite interessting, beautyful (thanks JOHN!)) woman :-)
She's got a 233Mhz-machine and a crappy, lame 98 running on it. She doesnt care for big office stuff since that wont run anyway.
So what is wanted is a reasonable OS and by the way its always nice to be totally legal with everything which might be hard otherwise.

I think there are many users that just want stuff to work out.. No Powerusers that want the latest OS at any cost but that care either for efficiency (like me) or do not care at all! (like many mostly female stuents I know that just have an old pc lying arround and dont have fun with it).

Soon (I hope), Im going to pos a small tutorial on TCC in DSL with some small easy-to-understand examples for I think DSL is also great to begin other stuff with.... html, C and so on...

Well, maybe this post got to long... Forgive my enthusiasm ;)

Hoping to see many of you for a long time,

Enthusi

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ou_ryperd

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Posted: Jan. 06 2004,10:52

[QUOTE]What could be an option for you (and others, though I think it's out of this project a I see it) is a secondary these-packages-work-fine-with-dsl-and-people-like-them-CD with selected Debian-packages.

Very good idea, if there is anyone that can spend time on it.

[QUOTE]Soon (I hope), Im going to pos a small tutorial on TCC in DSL with some small easy-to-understand examples for I think DSL is also great to begin other stuff with.... html, C and so on...

Looking forward to it.

guido

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Posted: Jan. 06 2004,21:31

Hi,

This is my personal opinion !

First of all...
In my job (ICT for kids from 3 to 12 years old ) I see a stupid situation.
Many pc's from 486 to PIV (150 => 200)
Many memory difference from 16 mb to 256 mb ram
Many users with no knowledge of computers and / or software
Many software with no license ( let me say 90% and even more...)

NO MONEY to upgrade all this stuff to an legal Microsoft XP/win2000 situation...

So i was a little bit frustrated .... Then i found searching on the web a DSL distro.

With DSL i can use about 90 % of all the equipment. Most common problem is the machines with 16 mb ram.

On this moment my evaluation of DSL is that is'n 100 % perfect , but it's usable. Even more then usable if i make the following dissision :
In education i must give the kids the possibility to work with program's and computers .

Not to work with programnames but to do the things you can do for example :
- with every browser.... visit websites
- with every textprocessor ...writing letters
- with every filemanager ... handeling files to a diskette...
etc...

So if i see that all the work of John give me the possibility to do this jobs than i think that DSL will have a good reason to develop.

Maybe the 50 mb is for some people a problem but in my possistion it's wonderfull.... a P I 200 MHZ / 32mb ram is with DSL a GREAT computer that will give the kids the possibility to do there tasks.

But the work isn't done...
First of all , normaly i'm speaking dutch , the kids (there are about 1100 in my schools) also. So i must seak a possibility to translate the english software in dutch. I think that this must be possible.

After that i must learn the teachers that they must do jobs and not working with programnames.

And when all this work is done i will have a great job.... Giving education to the kids.

You can't believe that i will now work 36 houres a week to try that all the windows stuff wil work ... antivirus ...updates... etc...

I may forgot it ! A CD-ROM is 100 % virus free and needs no update...

And when it need an update it's easy to do. 1 Master CD and 150 Copy CD's
And every update wil give new educational software.

So i'm happy with the work that John has done .

So Thanks John !

Regards from the dutch part of Belgium,
Guido

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Guido

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