new release 0.8.3


Forum: Site News
Topic: new release 0.8.3
started by: John

Posted by John on Oct. 27 2004,15:53
Check out the notes page for details.
< http://damnsmalllinux.org/notes.html >

Big screenshot:
< http://damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-0.8.3.png >

One unfortunate side effect to this release is that the old version of the MyDSL GUI is now broken.  You still can use extensions by downloading them manually with wget and loading them locally either by emeLFM or command line.

Posted by somerville32@hotmail.com on Oct. 27 2004,16:01
Is there anyway I could install the new version of DSL without burning it to a cd and overwriting all my data? If not, maybe that's the next step in DSL development.

~Me

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Oct. 27 2004,16:05
woo-hoo downloading now.

i was gonna be worried if we went for over a month without a new release!

EDITUS: Ibiblio is hella slow today. Try the belnet mirror instead, much faster. ^_^

-J.P.

Posted by clivesay on Oct. 27 2004,16:15
somerville -

I have never tried it but there is this cheatcode option. I am guessing you would have to change 'knoppix' to 'dsl'?

knoppix bootfrom=/dev/hda1/KNX.iso Access image, boot from ISO-Image. ***)

If you try it, let us know how it goes!

Chris

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Oct. 27 2004,16:20
Also, the new MyDSL gui is teh win.

Much improved. Kudos to John and Roberts!

And auto detection of my usb wireless dongle?! I could have passed out when it was working right from boot.

Now I can't wait to get home and see if it auto-detects my ethernet card on my laptop once again (b44.o)!

-(a very excited) J.P.

Posted by somerville32@hotmail.com on Oct. 27 2004,16:23
What will that 'cheat code' get me? Will it allow me to update with out overwrite of all my data?
Posted by clivesay on Oct. 27 2004,16:47
No. It would just allow you to try out the iso without burning a CD. I thought that was what you were looking for. Sorry

Chris

Posted by roadie on Oct. 27 2004,16:59
Chris,
That is what I was looking for.

Thanx,
Pat

Posted by AwPhuch on Oct. 27 2004,18:25
Daaaaaaaamnn!!!

You guys did alot of work on everything...

All the buttons and whatnot are new and clean...WOW!!!

Downloading now and going to build a nocd-dsl_0.8.3.zip soon as well (is that ok john?)

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by roadie on Oct. 27 2004,19:24
A couple of points on 0.8.3
I open MyDSL and it opens fine, but grab a file and all I get is Dillo telling me it's grabbing it.
The wget process is backgrounded, I kinda like to know what my system is doing.

Now, I have'nt used DSL live in quite a while, I do HD installs but did'nt it used to show wget working?

Also, after grabbing the firefox.uci, it installed fine, using it now but my desktop menu disappeared, replaced by :xterm, restart and exit"
Restarting X does'nt change it.

I like the new MC background, but I can't use MC since I installed Firefox, I get an error that it can't write a hotlist file because my old hotlist entries were not deleted.  The hotlist file is empty.
Deleting the hotlist file does'nt help.

UPDATE: creating a new hotlist in Scite fixed it, I also got a blue background now.
This is my new .fluxbox/menu tho it does'nt show Firefox on a right click


File:menu                Col:0 =114 bytes                                  100%
 [submenu](myDSL){}
 [end]
[exec] (Firefox) {/usr/bin/firefox.sh}
     [exec] (FireFox) {/opt/firefox/firefox}


roadie

Posted by Rapidweather on Oct. 27 2004,22:15
I think one can boot up 0.8.3 and use a restoration tarball "backup.tar.gz" from 0.8.2 and get all your setting back, if you had a fairly extensive filetool.lst in
/home/dsl/filetool.lst.
Here's mine:
---
opt/ppp
opt/bootlocal.sh
opt/powerdown.sh
home/dsl/filetool.lst
home/dsl/.fluxbox
home/dsl/.xserverrc
home/dsl/download
home/dsl/upload
home/dsl/Mail
home/dsl/Calendar
home/dsl/.wmpinboarddata
home/dsl/weather.cfg
home/dsl/.sylpheed
home/dsl/.phoenix
home/dsl/.opera
home/dsl/.xmms
home/dsl/.gimp-1.2
etc/wvdial.conf
---
Also, if you get the "three-item" menu, that only has xterm, restart and exit, then you need to make sure you have restored your "good" tarball into your running DSL system, and then if the menu won't pick up, restart the window manager with Menu -> WindowManager -> Restart. Be sure you don't "backup" without first getting everything running right, Menu, Fluxbox style, your sylpheed and dialup settings. If necessary, copy your old, good tarball to a backup like this
cp backup.tar.gz good_backup.tar.gz to keep it from being overwritten as you
work all this out. Good idea also is to save it on a couple of devices, not just one. I use a pen drive, sda1, and a hard drive partition, hda1
All of the MyDSL extensions that you download need to go on the backup device(s) in an /optional directory, and then when you restore from that device, all of the extensions will be picked up by DSL.
---
I put all of mine in the root of the CD in my remaster, but that has the downside of making the bootup a little long, especially if you have some big
MyDSL applications in there. Much easier to put them on the pen drive, and if you want one, such as AbiWord, then you know were to find it.
---
 :D

Posted by roadie on Oct. 27 2004,22:26
A small problem with backups. It won't.
I get "invalid device" errors on any partition.


roadie

Posted by Rapidweather on Oct. 27 2004,22:44
Did you use the mount app? If so, did the light turn green?
Also, I would cd to "/" and then cd to "mnt" and see what partitions
were detected by DSL.
I get 8 different ones, including the sda1 for the pen drive. The others are
linux and windows 98 partitions on the various hard drives installed in the
computer. If the partition you want shows up, the mount app should show it
when you use the arrows to go through them.
Restoration should not require you to mount the partition beforehand, however.
Menu -> System - > Backup/Restore. Just give the partition "hda2" for instance.
Don't use the /dev/hda2 as in the older DSL 7x versions.
It should work. Also, review your /home/dsl/filetool.lst and see if it has what you
want to save. (see mine above).
---
I have not tried all this in 0.8.3, but I doubt it would have been released if the
restoration and mount.app did not work.
---
:D

Posted by Rapidweather on Oct. 27 2004,23:14
< Screenshot 0.8.2, remaster. >
---
Now, I can get busy on 0.8.3!
---
:D

Posted by reidar on Oct. 28 2004,09:12
I really love the improvements in 0.8.3! Great!
I downloaded it last night, and played with it. One thing came up though, as I tried to do a hd-install. I selected enhanced, but it seems as if the scripts are not updated according to the newly organized mirror, so I couldn't get an enhanced install through the script. I guess this is just a small issue in the script that could easily be corrected.
Another thing I wonder about: it seems that 0.8.3 automatically loads any backup it could find, without me adding 'dsl restore=hda2' or something like that to the boot. Is this supposed to be so? I can see that it is nice sometimes, but I started up the cd with a usb-stick attached, and on this stick I had an old backup, which automatically loaded. Is there any way to not load a backup-file if it is present?

But, again, these are only small issues! I really love the improvements. The new control panel is great, and I think the new organization of the mydsl-apps in the mirrors is also very good! Great job!!!

:-)

-r

Posted by skaos on Oct. 28 2004,13:14
Great work!

One small thing: Busybox 1.0.0 final is out - will it be included in 0.8.4?

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Oct. 28 2004,13:56
Quote (reidar @ Oct. 28 2004,04:12)
One thing came up though, as I tried to do a hd-install. I selected enhanced, but it seems as if the scripts are not updated according to the newly organized mirror, so I couldn't get an enhanced install through the script.

I had the same problem. O_o

You can simply grab the gnu-utils.dsl and install it yourself to get the "enhanced" install.

Quote
One small thing: Busybox 1.0.0 final is out - will it be included in 0.8.4?


I suppose it is quite possible that it will, but my money is on the next release being 0.9.0, since we haven't had a release above 0.x.3 since the old 0.4.x days. ^_^

-J.P.

Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 28 2004,15:08
Quote
One thing came up though, as I tried to do a hd-install. I selected enhanced, but it seems as if the scripts are not updated according to the newly organized mirror, so I couldn't get an enhanced install through the script. I guess this is just a small issue in the script that could easily be corrected.
Another thing I wonder about: it seems that 0.8.3 automatically loads any backup it could find, without me adding 'dsl restore=hda2' or something like that to the boot. Is this supposed to be so? I can see that it is nice sometimes, but I started up the cd with a usb-stick attached, and on this stick I had an old backup, which automatically loaded. Is there any way to not load a backup-file if it is present?


You can use the "norestore" command at the boot: prompt during initial bootup to bypass the autorestore.
Or, simply put your choice of backup in the usual way.
"restore=hda3" or whatever..

The gnu-utils.dsl situation should now be resolved for
enhanced HDInstalls ..  
Leftover pains from moving to a new repository structure.
All in good time..  
Thanks for the feedback..

73
ke4nt

Posted by roberts on Oct. 28 2004,16:23
The hard drive install "enhanced" problem was caused by the change in directory structure, same for the dpkg-restore. Both have been corrected. Both have nothing to do with the downloaded iso. So, no need to download/burn/create DSL, just try the process again. The correction was made on the remote site. Actually the correction was made right away. Hopefully not many had to have your experience.
Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Oct. 28 2004,21:19
Hmm. Even though my usb wireless thingie is detected at boot, now, it still doesn't set up the DHCP client properly. It says "Performing DHCP broadcast on wlan0failed", just like after I would modprobe it on the command line and run netcardconfig, before I wrote that script.

But the script still works, so I'm okay. :)

-J.P.

Posted by reidar on Oct. 29 2004,06:57
Thanks for the feedback everyone!
Quote
You can use the "norestore" command at the boot: prompt during initial bootup to bypass the autorestore.
Or, simply put your choice of backup in the usual way.

I wasn't avare of this norestore-option. Thanks!
And again: the new version of DSL is really good! I am always awaiting the next release with great anticipation! Thanks for a really great distro!!!

:-)

-r

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