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Idealy, how big should DSL-N get? |
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whiteweasel
Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 1 Location: northern Wisconsin, USA
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: My thoughts on DSL-N |
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Size limit: Keep it to one pocket (mini) CD-R, so no more than 185MB
My number one most wanted feature not currently in DSL:
UTF-8 and bidirectional support. That means including fribidi for certain. i18n extensions to apps, alternate language spell checks, assorted fonts, and so on could be dsl-n extensions.
Other things:
-A good HTML editor. Bluefish would be my first choice.
-Seamonkey. BTW, Seamonkey is smaller than Firefox+Thunderbird+NVU.
-GIMP
-Dia
-gftp
-Aiksaurus, at least as an extension
-All the old DSL 2.x apps as extensions
I'm sure I can come up with more but those are things I do use all the time. |
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lefty.crupps
Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject: wireless access |
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DSL's biggest advantage is that it can run on older machines, but the older 2.4 kernel was holding DSL back from becoming a super-useful laptop system. I would love to see DSL-N be fully, unconditionally, amazingly stuffed full of wireless drivers.
I see these older laptops for sale for pretty inexpensively (pent 1 for $30, pent2 for $100...), but they cannot run a bloated distro and seem to creek along with Win98 (especially if full of malware). So many people have old laptops that they just want to use for surfing the web from the kitchen. How great would it be to rescue the old laptops out there and put them to use? Without wireless internet, that use is severly limited.
So, my vote is for WIRELESS modules and wrappers and drivers, oh my! Include pre-configured modules for ACX100/111 cards, Prism cards, Oronico Gold cards, and any of a dozen others that I cannot think of. Plug in that wireless card, and go cat go! Wi-fi encryption would be nice too, of course.
ClamAV would be useful too to help clean up older, slow Windows machines, and once the owner sees how quick this OS can be they might just prefer to stick with DSL-N.
Debian Etch (or even Sarge) compatibility is key. As useful as the small programs are, the ability to add anything from the Debian repositories (without breaking installs!) would be so useful to help demonstrate the greatness of Debian and Linux.
Thanks for the great work and product in DSL, I am very thrilled to see DSL-N. |
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maxim
Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Speyer. Germany
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: What applications would you like to see included in DSL- |
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Four things are really, really, really,really important for me:
- Joe ( console editor )
- Nedit ( X editor )
- Midnight Commander ( or is it already? )
and the most most most most most important:
ISDN support (AVM Fritz!Card PCI)
it was included in early versions of DSL but was kicked out to save a few Megs.
ISDN is still the standard in most german and central european homes and works easily with old computers.
I would jump 10 meters high if ISDN could be integrated (and tested!) in DSL-N.
- maybe a nice Mahjongg and other small games. |
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WDef
Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 20
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:51 am Post subject: |
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EEEEErk!!!
I'm concerned that some posters might be pushing for anything much bigger than 100MB.
I hope the developers never stray from their sacred path and bow to requests for VeryFatApplication to be added, especially when it might eventually load as a .uci.
There's Knoppix if you want every application under the sun. Btw it's slow as hell unless you have 1GB+ram to boot toram.
I thought the Mozilla suite is a good inclusion since it's supposed to pack a lot for the footprint. Why add redundant browsers? Load the uci.
Very small and very fast is the damnsmall mantra. Anything else would be Damnlarge.
I know there's not a size limit, but I like it like it is ~80mb.
Once application I would like is an image viewer eg xzgv, especially if someone can get it to view images fullscreen without a border. Qiv would be better than nothing - clicking on images in emelfm and having xpaint open is not good. |
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caddr
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: what I would like to see |
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is to have the lvm2 tools. Yes there is the dm-mod that I can load, but need to activate the LVM, so the vgscan, vgchange, etc would be nice. |
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ihacker260
Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 1:11 am Post subject: ideas |
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i think it would be a good idea to add these apps
gimp
bitcomet or some othre torrent program
yami pod
and a video player with a divx codec to play avi's |
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Peter
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 51
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 5:58 am Post subject: |
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see first entry for updates
[url]http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-n/f/viewtopic.php?p=39#39[/url] |
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Rob A.
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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I second the request for GParted. Keep up the good work.
Also a blue theme would be nicer than purple but that's not very important. |
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yannn
Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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So ... I'm a french newb in the Damn small forum ...
So ... Hi !
I've read your suggestions and i've some :
- Gparted (as it was earlear said)
- All tools for connection to wifi lan even if it was crypted
- A Amule client, torrent and news group
- Amsn with webcam support
- Fire fox or galeon and Thunderbird to replace mozilla suit (to big !)
- Streamtuner
- Clam AntiVirus or another one which can clean Windows virus
- A tools to record screen or a region of screen to AVI or MPG (if you know a tool which do that could you tell me his name !)
- Mplayer codec !
- CD and DVD burner
- PDF to Openoffice editabled document
- Arc compression with all extension
Too much things !
I've an idea so I'm delivering it :
Why don't you make a basic/minimalist distrib of Damn small without program and don't you make a tool (like script or other way) to add our usefull program to built let built the best distrib for ours ourself ?
I've heard about slax which can be remastering by added modules...
Is it not possible for Damn small ?
Go one team !!!
Amicaly yann |
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John Site Admin
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Regarding SeaMonkey, It is very close to Mozilla, but its based on GTK2. I'd prefer to run GTK1.2 for now unless there is a good reason to switch. |
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cbagger01
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 27
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Since the focus of DSL-N seems to be GTK GUI apps vs. console apps running inside a terminal window, why not replace CDW with GCombust?
GTK GUI app.
Autodetects CD-RW drives.
Small size.
Few dependencies |
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Peter
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 51
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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[quote="yannn"]
I've heard about slax which can be remastering by added modules...
Is it not possible for Damn small ?
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I believe it follows the same conventions as dsl for the locations, but you can download mydsl "modules" here:
[url]http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/mydsl/[/url]
and then, for the CD version, put your MyDSL Extensions in the root of the cd; for the USB version extensions go in the /cdrom directory.
The modules are currently undergoing testing, and you can report success or failure here:
[url]http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-n/f/viewtopic.php?p=360#360 [/url] |
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Winter Knight
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 65
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:31 am Post subject: The most important thing... |
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The most important thing is that Damn Small Linux Not stays small. There are plenty of things that could be added, but even if they aren't in the base distro, they will be in the modules, or myDSL, directory, and that is okay.
That being said, I'd like to add that I too, would like to see mozilla replaced with firefox / thunderbird. The problem with mozilla is that it is big, and the whole thing loads into RAM even if you don't use an email client. On a newer computer, no one would notice. But on a Pentium II w/ 32 Megs of RAM, anyone would notice.
I'd also like to see samba in DSL-n. I've always thought of DSL as my second OS (Windows being my first; it gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling), and I feel samba would fit in with DSL or DSL-n.
John and Robert, I don't know if you were already, but I would recommend considering a size cap for DSL-n. I mean, if it weren't for your hard set limit on DSL, or business card CDs and their 50MB limit, you would have gone past 50MB on DSL a long time ago. DSL-n itself is a manifestation of your desire to go beyond your constraints.
I think 110MB would be a good limit. 110 is still small, leaves a little room to grow, and 128MB USB pen drives with DSL-n could still hold 15MB or so of personal user information.
The only way it would get bigger than that anyway is if you added a bunch of unneccessary applications, like the ones mentioned in this thread. |
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alcibiades
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:43 am Post subject: Tellico!! |
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I'd like to see Tellico! Not just a collection tool, more of a general purpose end user point and click database to keep track of anything at all. Like Filemaker, with your application already written for you. Just the thing DSL-N needs! |
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Peter
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 51
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone here have any experience with mtPaint? |
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